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13-Feb-2008, 21:36 | #1 |
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:rvm: a comprar carros economicos
bueno vi el articulo y lo vi interesante al parecer ya dijeron fuck high hp cars
End of an Era? With new rules and revised CAFE standards, the days of powerful, fuel-thirsty cars may soon be long gone. By Lawrence Ulrich </IMG> Click to see more pictures The goverment is ready to take the gasoline out of car enthusiasts' veins. There's only one thing to say about a Corvette that can top 200 mph, or a Cadillac sedan that makes the muscle cars of the '60s seem like a bunch of wimps: Enjoy it while it lasts. This golden age of horsepower may be coming to an end, at least in the gas-guzzling manner to which we've become accustomed. An initial stroll through the recent auto show in Detroit might convince you that nothing has changed. GM was touting the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1, a 620-horsepower 200-mph monster that's simply the fastest production car in GM's history. Next door at the Cadillac display, the CTS-V sport sedan was flexing its 550-horsepower muscles. Even squeaky-clean Toyota — ignoring recent environmental backlash over guzzlers such as its Tundra pickup — offered the 500-plus horsepower Lexus LF-A roadster. This Tokyo demon, heading to showrooms next year, should also break the 200-mph barrier. These hard-drinking machines might convince you that automakers are still partying like it's 1999, when gas cost around $1.20 a gallon. But just under the Detroit show's surface, something else was brewing. And it wasn't high-octane unleaded. Read: Gasoline's New Math: Miles Per Dollar New rules will force the car kings to shift their focus. Revised CAFE standards require automakers to raise the average mileage of their car and truck fleets to 35 mpg by 2020. Proposed pollution standards in the U.S. and Europe may force even more dramatic increases. And if California wins the right in court to regulate global-warming emissions, you might just kiss your super-powered car goodbye — at least those that rely solely on gasoline. In Europe the government and greens are proposing carbon-dioxide targets so strict that, if passed, not a single gas-burning model on sale today — including hybrids like the Toyota Prius — would pass muster. The situation recalls the end of the first muscle-car era, which left Boomers shedding tears for their beloved GTOs, Shelby Mustangs and Hemi 'Cudas. In the early '70s, the first-ever tailpipe standards were a critical step toward cleaning up smoggy cities, but they also helped strangle the muscle car. It took two decades and a serious dose of engineering Viagra before cars recovered their potency. The unfortunate side effect is that the average car today slurps more gasoline than it did 20 years ago. Cars became vastly quicker and more powerful. And of course, Americans switched en masse to SUVs. Read: Fuel Economy: Then and Now For anyone — including myself — with a need for speed, the longtime cliché is that they have gasoline in their veins. But a century's worth of shooting-up has put us where we are now, trying to kick a national addiction to oil. As a result, the Motown show also featured enough green cars to stock a Sierra Club parking lot. On display was Toyota's hybrid A-BAT concept pickup and General Motors' latest hybrids, including a plug-in Saturn Vue SUV that's coming in 2010. Mercedes, VW and Honda hyped their high-mileage diesel cars that can even meet California's tough pollution rules. Tellingly, the show also saw carmakers backing away from the thrilling-but-thirsty V8 engine that's as much a part of American culture as rock and roll. GM deep-sixed a $300 million project to develop a new V8, with Vice Chairman Bob Lutz saying that new fuel-economy rules directly sparked the move. Ford plans to drop V8s from several models, replacing them with turbocharged V6 and four-cylinder engines that go farther on a gallon. If all that doesn't have you seeing the writing on the wall, you'd better schedule an eye exam. Still, if there's a difference between today's golden age of performance and the '60s original, it's the ability of technology to ride to the rescue. Discuss: Do you think the new regulations will really mean the end of high-powered cars or will technology come to the rescue once again? At the Detroit show, I asked Lutz — the GM car czar who famously inspired the Dodge Viper while at Chrysler — whether this was the last hurrah for horsepower. And while Lutz has become a vocal supporter of hybrids, electric cars and alternative fuels, he said that cars like the Corvette would still find their niche. "At the height of the vegetarian craze, the grocery stores are still selling New York steaks," Lutz said. Lutz's point was that some people will always find a way to go fast. But the future does look bleak for speed machines powered by gasoline. While it's too early to predict which fuels will be winners and losers, it's certain that there will be multiple players. Half the new cars sold in Europe run on clean diesel, and that impressive technology is finally on its way here. Mercedes showed off a sumptuous diesel-hybrid S-Class sedan that delivers 44 mpg. Audi will almost certainly bring us a diesel version of its spectacular R8 sports car, combining 500 horsepower with a respectable 24 mpg. Energy experts agree that the transition to alternative fuels will take decades. There will still be gas pumps 30 and 40 years from now. Car lovers will still be able to cruise their classic internal combustion machines, whether it's a '32 Ford Deuce Coupe, a '57 Chevy or today's hottest rides. But the days of guzzling gas as quickly as you can hose it into your tank are over. Looking back 30 years from now, we'll know it was not only the right move, but the only move. Lawrence Ulrich lives in Brooklyn and writes about |
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13-Feb-2008, 21:40 | #2 |
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pues puede haber carros economicos y puyones, ejemplo los starlets y glanzas, eso de tener un fucking V8 si ni mierda, de 6 cilindros ya es grande pero ba aceptable, pero los fucking V8, V10, V12 etc si q estupidez pues
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14-Feb-2008, 00:07 | #3 |
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Estoy bien de acuerdo con eso, que tendencia más mierda la de hacer carros más gastones cuando menos petroleo empieza a haber en el mundo.
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14-Feb-2008, 00:09 | #4 |
el foro ha muerto :(
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el fuckin' glanza es un carro bonito y es puyón si lo comparás con un corolla aklsjdfk pero no es un deportivo como sí lo son varios carros que son gastones
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14-Feb-2008, 07:54 | #5 |
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La idea esta buena.
Regular mas las emisiones. Yo si creo que la tecnologia de una u otra forma va a salir al rescate de todos estos carros de alto desempeño y de alto consumo de gasolina y no digamos que muchos de estos no pasan el control de emisiones. Por alli tengo una revista donde prueban varios tunner cars vrs el Z06 de Chevrolet y entre las pruebas esta la prueba de emisiones, de 6 carros que eran si no estoy mal solo 2 pasaron la prueba de emisiones. La voy a buscar y lo voy a poner aqui... Es interesante.
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14-Feb-2008, 08:40 | #6 |
100% stock :D
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buena idea la verdad, por ahi me acuerdo la vez pasada que spec v posteo algo sobre un lexus o toyota con motor v8 que era bien economico
haber que pasa igual es por el bien de la humanidad ajdsñfklñjdssad
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14-Feb-2008, 08:46 | #7 |
Fuck You!
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Que dejen de consumir los gringos hijos de puta tanta gasolina con su guerra mierda y van a ver como si alcanza el petroleo para rato...
Última edición por wicho; 14-Feb-2008 a las 09:01 |
14-Feb-2008, 09:01 | #8 |
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14-Feb-2008, 09:16 | #9 |
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pues si, para los "super carros" del futuro, va a tener que ser hasta que se haya establecido otro combustible como estandar, sin petroleo
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14-Feb-2008, 10:16 | #10 |
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La onda está también en lo que a un pudiente pueda interesarle el precio de la gas
Por otro lado si no se venden mucho van a empezar empiecen a buscar alternativas los fabricantes para que siempre puyen sin utilizar tanta gas o sin gas :ojalá:
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14-Feb-2008, 10:26 | #11 |
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se van a :cagar: en todos los domestiqueros de usa
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14-Feb-2008, 10:29 | #12 |
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un smart....
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